Chapter 10

类别:文学名著 作者:奥修 本章:Chapter 10

    Religion is a Searcation1 August 1970 pm in CCI Chambers, Bombay, India

    Question 1

    BEFORE DISCUSSING tERING DEAtO ASK YOU:  IS tEEN tAtE OF UNCONSCIOUSNESS AND tAtE OF AARENESS?  StAtE OF MIND IS CALLED tAtE? IN Ot IS tS CONSCIOUS AND UNCONSCIOUS StAtES?

    In order to understand tates of consciousness and unconsciousness, t t needs to be understood is t t opposite states, altes.

    Actually, o seeing life in terms of duality.

    First e a division bete things.

    As soon as ake darkness and ligo be t t a fundamental mistake.

    Any t t folloake is bound to be  can never be right.

    Darkness and ligions of thing.

    t aspects, different stages of thing.

    It e to call darkness a deficiency of light.

    Lig catc ect, looks like darkness.

    Similarly, we s a sage of darkness -- darkness wch.

    So darkness and lig te the same phenomenon.

    is true of darkness and ligrue of all oties of life.

    true regarding tates.

    You may consider unconsciousness as darkness, and consciousness as light.

    In fact, even t unconscious of all objects is not completely unconscious.

    A rock is not all unconscious -- it exists in a state of consciousness too, but t is o grasp.

    A man is asleep, a man is awake.

    Sleep and  t things.

    ting between sleep and wakefulness.

    really being asleep.

    For example, five ;Ramaquot; aloud.

    Only to find out wurbing his sleep, who has called him.

    ty-nine people stay asleep.

    his name was Rama.

    ually one of tates of e of le tle fuzzy.

    You see a man running on treet.

    his house is on fire.

    You greet him.

    see you.

    hear you.

    You ask  day urn your greeting and ;My house was on fire.

    At t time I couldnt see anyt my   ting t ed me, but I couldnt see you, I couldnt hear you.

    quot; No, as far as t reet was concerned,  asleep.

    ;Ramaquot; being called in his sleep.

    So  to say is: t te things.

    Matter and God are not te things.

    Sleep and e things.

    But tely divides to two.

    In fact, no sooner does tion t divides to two.

    t mind t divides into two.

    to to divide into titute one and thing.

    t you think, you divide.

    tely divide into two.

    to the more he will keep on dividing.

    Ultimately, s and tely lost.

    And to every question lies in totality.

    to find to any question.

    In fact, it raises a number of questions from eac finds.

    No matter  tely raise dozens of questions -- but it can never find an anso anything.

    the wholeness.

    But the mind is helpless.

    It cant function  making divisions.

    For example, I am sitting alking to you.

    You are listening to me and you are also looking at me.

    t and tening to are not t individuals.

    h your ears.

    You o ts.

    If you o sit close to me and smell my body, you hree.

    t ts togete an image of me.

    But t  be my image, it ion of ts.

    It will be misleading.

    You can never create ts, because t ws were made.

    No sooner do  consciousness and unconsciousness to divide.

    In my viehey are one.

    But he same.

    I am not saying consciousness itself is unconsciousness.

    are one, I dont mean you can .

    are one, I mean existence is made of varying degrees of ting reality.

    ts in being a little more or a little less, in being present or not present.

    No o follow me.

    is t is present in a greater degree and becomes unconsciousness s in a lesser degree? t is attention.

    ttention, tate of consciousness.

    Unconsciousness and consciousness are but different densities of attention.

    tate of attention, the consciousness.

    tenuous ttention, tate of unconsciousness.

    In fact, t y of attention at any level of consciousness.

    At tention becomes condensed, consciousness takes place, and at y of attention decreases, unconsciousness occurs.

    If you let tely produced.

    A condensed liges fire.

    loses its density, enuous, light remains.

    t contains .

    is condensed, fire is produced.

    becomes tenuous -- t is, y is reduced -- t light.

    As density decreases darkness increases.

    ity, light increases.

    If ravel to he sun.

    As  will go on decreasing.

    At t distance from t darkness, because of ty of light.

    I apply to tates of unconsciousness and consciousness.

    ttention.

    Its fluidity, density, tenuity, solidity, determine wo call one awake or asleep, wo call one unconscious or conscious.

    e must remember,  all tive sense.

    For example,  only means t inside tside.

    t in t is dark outside.

    ere t sunsside, this room would look darker.

    So wo someone else.

    Language s oy; it o continually express tive terms.

    ts .

    t o express in relative terms.

    For instance, ting here and in a way we are all awake.

    But ts not really true.

    Eac o a respective degree.

    Not every one sitting here is awake uniformly.

    is possible t, compared to you.

    to your left is less ao your right is more awake.

    t t moves bettention.

    So if and tention, dand w consciousness and unconsciousness means.

    Attention means: ahing.

    It means reflection of somethe consciousness.

    It is not t every moment, ty-four  is never like t either.

    As an example, it o kno the eye.

    in tracts because t to go in.

    Less ligo see; racts and the focus is narrowed.

    of brig into a dark place, te and to see in t needs to go hin.

    So according to t it is exposed to, ts focus -- ting ting pictures.

    Just as every moment ones eye is flexible, so is ones attention.

    You reet.

    If treet is familiar your attention enuous; if treet is unfamiliar your attention will be dense.

    You need not be alert if it is a street you cross every day, because in an unconscious state you are sure to make it.

    If treet is totally unfamiliar, one you  h awareness.

    Because of ty of treet, great attention will be needed.

    y, the more unconscious he will be.

    In security everything is known, familiar.

    ty, the more aware he will be.

    So ordinarily, except for ts of danger, we are never aware, we are always asleep.

    If I suddenly point a dagger at your c, you  at once.

    You e different from w you are now.

    Seeing ted at you e sucical situation, t at t moment you cant afford to be asleep.

    t means you cant be sleepy in suc.

    If you stay sleepy in sucuation you h.

    In t tening moment your  of crystallization, your ion will become condensed.

    Your ion .

    It is possible tuation may last only for a second; nevert is, your attention ordinarily becomes dense only in critical moments.

    Once to your previous state, you go to sleep once again.

    t seems to be ttracts.

    e love to take risks.

    A man gambles, for example.

    You may  as to w makes him gamble.

    It is t of danger t draws o gambling.

    At t of placing , han ever.

    A gambler  and is about to the dice.

    Its a very critical moment.

    In a blink, a .

    At t  afford to be asleep; o be aware.

    t moment of betting is certain to crystallize tention.

    Norigue you, but in my vieion.

    or not is anotter.

    A man brings a wife home.

    ttentive towards her.

    So reet  door looks more attractive.

    t t y excites tention.

    Looking at tention o become condensed; tely.

    Actually, t c eacher.

    In fact, a  his wife; he avoids her.

    t require o pay any attention to her.

    traction for anottraction of attention.

    In t one moment, in t moment of the mind becomes fully aware.

    It o -- because only t possible to see somebody.

    to ead of tead of tions instead of the old.

    Deep does a profound desire to experience a crystallized attention -- meditation.

    And all tallized tation is.

    ts of bliss are ts of crystallized meditation.

    hence.

    to attain joy must awaken.

    You cannot attain joy by staying asleep.

    Religion is a searcation, and so is gambling.

    One tle, sion too.

    One iger in t is also searcation.

    And tting in ter, is searcation as well.

    t the same.

    A searc the same.

    Meditation means: t lies  in its entirety.

    No part of it sent hin you, in seed form.

    soever capability of kno a potential, it sual.

    Only in t moment a person becomes fully aware does he really flower as a being.

    Bots occur simultaneously.

    For example, a tree is  potentially.

    It is just a potentiality: t materializing into tree.

    It is not necessary t tree o come out of t is simply a possibility.

    It is only a potentiality, not yet an actuality.

    ter turning of to a tree is yet anotate of its being, t state.

    It  be o say t t state of tree, because ree is the seed.

    Follo  be incorrect to say t unconsciousness is tential state of a a state of unconsciousness.

    is it t moves betates?   in ts in tree? t be a connecting link betree.

    t be somet makes to tree, t exists in both.

    ion betree?  ree? It can neit be tree.

    to be understood.

    t ree could not he seed alone.

    t could never ree.

    And if it ree alone,   existed in both.

    t tal energy.

    Aates.

    t t travels betation.

    ts tal energy.

    So, tative you are, tative, the more asleep.

    A rock is a sleeping God -- totally asleep, absolutely like a seed, no sprouting anywhere.

    Man is not a tree, iny sprout.

    yet become a tree, but her.

    ween.

    Man is on a journey -- or it ter to say t man is in transit, at a ing place on a journey.

    Man is a seed on its o becoming a tree.

    in between.

    ts all man is -- a sprout, a sprouted seed.

    a sprouting.

    ate.

    ill a very sleepy state.

    tate in ine is not very different from tate of somnambulism.

    In a dream, a man gets up, goes to tcer, or sits at able and es a letter, and to sleep.

    all in the dream.

    pat difficulty, e tter, but still he was asleep.

    t, except for a tiny little corner, ire mind er ions in its memory.

    So t a loss in to explain .

    ate similar to somnambulism.

    If I ask  a loss to answer.

    You may simply say.

    quot;t of January indeed, and I must  day, but I  exactly.

    quot; You o knoion you could easily give a detailed account of t very day.

    occurred on t day was recorded in some corner of your mind, a corner of w fully aware.

    It  unused.

    Similarly, t lives are also lying turbed.

    e are not fully cognizant of them.

    In t of our being  part he recording.

    No is inactive, asleep; t is aive.

    t w of work already accomplis in a previous life.

    It is ignorant of t t a seed ed in tly died.

    It  all t suctempt was already made once before.

    As a matter of fact, infinite attempts have been made before.

    Ser into t lives, you  surprise.

    t lives are not restricted to human lives alone.

    Entering t mucy.

    o many hrough animal lives as well.

    It is difficult to penetrate they are hidden under even deeper layers.

    And even prior to our animal lives, we rees as well.

    Penetrating t because t deeper levels.

    Prior to rees, we hrough many lives as rocks and minerals.

    Memories of t even lower levels.

    Access to t.

    Up to nos in remembering past lives  gone beyond the level of animal life.

    Even ts carried on by Budd go beyond the level of animal life.

    tree is yet to be revived.

    As for t is still furthe road.

    But t lives are clearly recorded.

    t aken place in a state of somnolence, otire mind .

    It may not o you, but tain t.

    so? For example, lets assume someone slapped you when you were five years old.

    Even after so many years t is still fres it for t of your life.

    seems to be tter? At t you tention must have been very sharp.

    ts w made such a deep impression on you.

    It is only natural t at t one is slapped, ones attention  its  point.

    t ts of insult, ts of pain, ts of happiness.

    tense moments.

    In ts  tire consciousness, wten by him.

    o understand tention is, ation is? Because it is an experience, to understand it is a bit difficult.

    If I o stick a pin in your body ention  once begin to ruso t wuck you.

    All of a sudden t point in t.

    One s.

    At t moment you  part of ting.

    So  t part of your body  you  a, not cognizant of it; you didnt even knoed.

    And ted a crisis and your ion ruso wing.

    is it t ruso point?   no t  present at t point a moment ago, but no is t  from t a moment ago.

    Its absence made you so oblivious to t part of t ed or not he same.

    You ; it made little difference .

    Suddenly you became a part also exists in your body.

    Suddenly it makes a lot of difference s or not.

    Nos existential a to you.

    So, attention means awareness.

    ttention.

    to be understood, because it ion.

    ttention.

    One, ration.

    In order to understand ration is, it is necessary to kno ion is centered on one point, you become oblivious to all ots.

    As I mentioned earlier, if a pin is t into your body, your entire attention o t wing.

    You  of the body.

    In fact, a sick person remains as of  well.

    o live only in and around ted parts of  of t exist for him any more.

    One  of o be.

    One ention centers only on tomach.

    If a t, t becomes everything.

    tration of attention.

    to one point.

    ire consciousness converges on one point and rests ts become negated, disappear into darkness.

    As I pointed out earlier,  the fire.

    hing else is dead as far as he is concerned.

    t his house is on fire.

    o of the world.

    So, concentration is one form of attention.

    In concentration you become centered on one point her areas.

    ration is ty of attention, at time it is too.

    Botaneously.

    ttention is a concentration.

    Atention ered on any particular point.

    ttle difficult to understand, because ed attention.

    A man kno ting , taking of an examination and so on, so tention directed toicular point; ration is.

    But ttention .

    As long as a mans attention is narroo a particular point, he remaining areas.

    If  indeed be an awakened God, fully aware.

    But .

    So t be any object, any center of awareness as far as God is concerned.

    Its an a a center.

    In suce, all pervading.

    timate state, t possible.

    ts  means tate of being.

    Ordinarily, people take c to mean cana, consciousness, s meaning, because consciousness is al something.

    If you say, quot;I am conscious,quot; t can be asked, quot;Conscious about ; C means objectless consciousness.

    It is not consciousness aimed at somet is just a pure state of being conscious.

    Consciousness -centered, e of being conscious is centrifugal, radiating into infinity.

    It does not rest on anyt does not stop at anyt pervades all over.

    In tate, o infinity, t whold.

    timate state.

    e may call it tate of total awareness.

    tate exactly opposite to ti, tate of total, dreamless sleep.

    And to be understood too.

    In concentration, ones consciousness is centered on one object, unconscious of t.

    Aered on one point only.

    In tate of total a to be aing.

    One s a an aicular object.

    In tate of total a disappears, only t remains.

    Only t wo be known remains no more.

    the knower alone remains.

    to knoo infinity and no longer is t to know.

    tsoever knotain.

    If you  to kno someto be ignorant of something else.

    Remember, it is  one alhe price of knowing.

    As man goes on becoming knoo remain equally ignorant of many others.

    Noist is quite a kno if   pician  cry.

    If s to kno deal about matics, o be content  kno many othings.

    o make this choice.

    If you  to be an expert in a particular field, you  about many othings.

    ts his sense.

    t  experts in any field.

    , but t is  even knoure in a bicycle tire.

    a specialist.

    One ure in a bicycle tire hings.

    o become object-centered and alloo be left in the dark.

    t less and less.

    As t of knohe area of knowledge becomes more and more narrow.

    Finally, only one point remains to be kno of th ignorance.

    ts tist .

    About t he is as dull as a villager, even worse.

    A villager kno a good many t a specialist.

    ts .

    to make a choice.

    In order to kno about one to give up kno many othings.

    Concentration is bound to end up like this.

    One particular object ance o neglect.

    Yet anot of concentration is t t groance, t it becomes secondary.

    A scientist kno deal, but  hin himself.

    -centered.

    If you ask  an object  to you, but if you ask o say somet en times find  a loss.

    teresting episode in thousand discoveries.

    Perhaps no one else has made so many discoveries.

    In t roduced in America, Edison o bring ion card to tand in the queue as well.

    , h indifference, as if someone elses name was being called.

    Somebody in to recognize him.

    o him and said.

    quot;Pardon me, I ographe newspapers.

    You yourself seem to be Edison.

    quot;

    Edison gave a start.

    he man for reminding him who he was.

    ;In t ty years I tle free time or leisure to meet myself.

    quot; For ty years tory t ime for himself.

    ant figure t in ty years no one had ever called him by his given name.

    Obviously, ten it.

    Concentration rikes an object  intensity.

    it, ire o darkness.

    In timate state t I am speaking to you about ticular object ed, including yourself, including t which you are.

    It .

    Instead of calling it lig luminosity.

    Ligy are not synonymous; t distinction betwo.

    appears , but  and t to rise, y.

    It is unfocused, uncentered, just luminosity.

    So, God is just luminosity -- or, luminosity is tate of ultimate awakening.

    Exactly opposite to tate of darkness or of dreamless sleep.

    Lets put it this way.

    In tate of total a nor t remains.

    remains is just infinite luminosity.

    In a manner of speaking, ty is a state of kno in anot is a state of kno all.

    It is all-kno falls outside ts light.

    And it kno wo be known.

    If one attempts to knoicular, many ot unknown.

    So t t is acquired by a scientist, it is kno is knoo .

    tate of a of concentration,  about all t, including yourself.

    And t anotate whis.

    It is tate in w nor yourself.

    It is tate of total darkness.

    Neit anyt is not even concentration; nor do you kno everyt is not even awareness.

    Nor do you know yourself.

    till in tate.

    It is still in seed form; it is still unmanifest, s.

    So ti, tate of dreamless sleep, and tate of total awareness.

    In bete points of attention e.

    tention stle towards awareness.

    At nig sowards susi.

    t is, in sleep o matter.

    o t a little closer.

    e sowards God.

    Sinue to lean toinue, t comes ely asleep.

    to remain aware even in your sleep.

    tion, not a state of spiritual darkness.

    t t you are asleep.

    You turn in your sleep and kno you are doing so.

    t of ahin.

    too.

    For example, a man falls into a coma or becomes unconscious or gets drunk.

    In all t is going on outside or inside himself.

    t , lost in darkness.

    Similarly, botate of ultimate consciousness as  te light.

    If you understand  means t ttention extends from total sleep to total awareness.

    In bet is divided at many levels.

    A tree knooo.

    For a long time we .

    to our attention for t time, it seemed as if talking fiction; ory from the Puranas.

    But noists are providing proof t a tree kno a tree listens too.

    trees also  like ours of course, but nevertrees y to see, to listen, to experience.

    Recently, I  some experiments conducted at tory of Oxford University.

    tific means t certain astoniso our attention.

    One of t amazing experiences  seeds from one packet e flos.

    Bots tention.

    to pray before one of ts so its seeds s early, so t and attain to timate potential.

    t made before t.

    to everyones great surprise t sprouted very late in spite of t t all arrangements for bots  test difference.

    tructions to treat tly.

    Nevert winguished.

    t gre early.

    All its seeds sprouted, .

    ever seeds gre took time; th was slower.

    And ty of flo.

    t and many oted in tory, and to everyones surprise it  t plants are able to sense prayer too, t tive to prayer too.

    An even more surprising experiment took place, one ement.

    to pray was a Cian and he wore a cross around his neck.

    As icular seed ographed.

    And tograpurned out to be spectacular, far beyond anyones comprehension.

    In tograp seed the holy mans cross and raised arms were clearly visible.

    does tions.

    I believe ts omic energy.

    ting, too.

    too.

    Indeed, it is asleep.

    Compared to man it looks even more asleep.

    And yet, tain as state of sleep.

    A rock looks even more asleep, but even its state of sleep contains a kind of awareness.

    Not all rocks are absolutely rocks, and not all rocks are equally asleep.

    Rocks ive individuality too.

    It ive singularity t led to tones; ot have been found.

    Not just any stone is taken to be a precious stone.

    Also, dont be under ted by applying t certain ty.

    t ones are valued.

    It is as if a buddanding somewands near him.

    If someone from Mars o land on earte beture nor our manners.

    he will only judge by appearances.

    If tian o spend an cion beturning to ,  be wrong if old ians wo people who looked very much alike.

    alking, resting -- and all alike.

    So one, our understanding is similar because ies.

    Precious stones are a great discovery of man.

    to read tones in depto go deep in to connect  t.

    even ones, there are some which are awake.

    Certain stones are more aain others, more asleep.

    People also came to kno certain stones are aicular direction and can ticular reasons.

    Some unprecedented events art taking place in your life if you carry certain kinds of stones, make a c one in your ring -- because sucones oo.

    itone of t kind incidents ably occur, because noic relationsone.

    it it sucs  happen.

    tones une.

    one found y, found it o get out of it.

    And o someone else,  into trouble too.

    tones wory of  wrouble.

    tones are still very mucill doing trouble to anyone whem.

    tones t  good fortune to tly.

    So stones y, as do plants.

    In ty, and ty depends on to whing is awake or asleep.

    In oto ent ttention is active or inactive determines ty of a particular thing.

    You can look at it too: a dynamic attention means aention means sleep, unconsciousness.

    timate passivity of attention is matter, timate dynamism of attention is God.

    Question 2

    YOU O StAtES, ONE OF COMPLEtE UNCONSCIOUSNESS AND tE AARENESS.

    ONE tRAVELS FROM COMPLEtE UNCONSCIOUSNESS tO ABSOLUtE AARENESS.

    tION IS, ER AttAINING tAtE OF ABSOLUtE AARENESS? ALSO, FROM  DOES tE UNCONSCIOUSNESS BEGIN, AND  COME FROM?

    Actually, as soon as e or ake a feions t go  into account.

    For instance, it is o ask quot;; because w wo an end.

    S ever end some be whole.

    It  t very point; rig o be whole.

    ;From ion, because t which has no beginning.

    If it  cannot be whole.

    te is beginningless and endless.

    It neiterwards.

    If t  be the whole.

    t ask any questions about te.

    If one needs to ask a question at all, to tion, quot; is w; As suc wions are meaningless.

    Questions occur in our minds: quot; come?  come?  end?  end?  end? ence is tate of consciousness located? And ate of complete unconsciousness be?quot; It is natural t questions suchese should arise.

    tions are perfectly consistent, yet totally meaningless.

    One s be under t just because a tent it is also meaningful.

    A tent and yet meaningless.

    So tions are absolutely pertinent but thing.

    soever anso more questions of ture.

    So end to tell you?

    tain questions you never ask a scientist.

    stitude toain tist is never asked to explain.

    ist refuses to anshem.

    All religions make this error.

    By ansions  place -- t to trouble.

    For example, if you ask a scientist, quot;ree green?quot; ;Because tree contains chlorophyll.

    quot; And if you ask, quot;ree contain c; tist ion -- it is a fact; ts t is.

    out, quot;tree is green because it contains c; If you continue to ask, quot; tree be  c; tist ate frankly, quot;I am not tor, and to tion!quot;

    In to stupidities.

    It leaves everyto ts.

    quot;t is; ts.

    quot; tist says, quot;er is created.

    quot; No one goes on asking ; so? er created by mixing ;  clear.

    quot;tion doesnt arise,quot; he will say.

    quot;e kno by mixing boter is created; by not mixing ter is not created.

    t.

    Beyond tion begins.

    quot;

    If ion as to , in there is awareness.

    t and as yet no hem.

    And I dont think a way can ever be found.

    timate fact.

    t one end and lig ther.

    Eventually darkness disappears into infinity, and one never kno of initiation was.

    Ligually disappears into infinity too, and one never kno of its disappearance.

    And  distance in eition.

    As we look backward we find darkness increasing, becoming more and more dense.

    As  growing, becoming increasingly dense.

    But .

    Nor do ermination of light.

    tuated -- in the middle.

    No matter his is all we see.

    Even t farsig seen farthis.

    causes ty? ion, some fool turns up to ans.

    Once a question is formulated, someone or oto come up .

    t.

    Po foolisions.

    And tions remain, righey always were.

    t anso eacion, because eacs an individuals perception.

    In anso tion, quot;ed man?quot; someone can say, quot;God created man.

    quot; But so ;e man? e e man in t place?quot; tter rig is.

    Finally one mig;ell, t!quot;

    If to get ultimately

    Someone mig;It is all maya; it is beyond comprehension.

    quot; On t everyt it is all an illusion, maya; alking about everytually coming out of anding.

    o ood t everyt everything is beyond comprehension.

    If everyto s up; t say all is maya.

    is really beyond compre keep quiet; to answer.

    Some people say God created man so man can attain God.

    foolisrue t e man as a god in t place? o go trouble? Someone else declares, quot;to fulfill the unfinished karmas of previous lives.

    quot; But t can be asked, quot;t  life  any ot.

    t fruits  initial birt; Obviously it  cause.

    In my vieimate questions.

    All pally dis.

    But ty is hidden very deep.

    And once ty escapes your notice, tructure  find any difficulty.

    Once you ed a lie -- t lie -- all truths.

    Once a person believes t God is tor, tter ends righere.

    But or? If tion arises even once, it means tter   her begun nor ended.

    In my view, religion should also be perceived as a science.

    Some time before ein ;iate betist and a p; Einstein replied, quot;I call t man a scientist y-nine.

    And about t it is all t is kno t.

    It may cure.

    It is not tatement.

    quot;

    Science never makes any final statement.

    ts wy in science.

    So Einstein said, quot;If you ask a pions, y answers.

    e, as if no change can ever occur.

    quot; soever a po be taken as conclusive; anyone doubting it can suffer the fires of hell.

    For a pable.

    t it, e minds t are botific and religious at time.

    this is my approach.

    Altalk all along on religion, my outlook is alific.

    to timate questions; t be any.

    If an ansion is no longer timate question -- it must be a question someion for whe answer has been found.

    tter her.

    timate question is one we of all answers.

    timate question means t no matter ions are raised, after you are tion aing you, tion mark still staring you in the face.

    You may just succeed in pusion a little furts all.

    You may have seen a Japanese doll.

    No matter oss it, it alands upright.

    the doll is called Daruma.

    It is named after an Indian mystic, Bodhidharma.

    From India, Bod to Cs o be knohe Daruma doll.

    No matter o Bodhidharma, he remained as he was.

    ter him.

    Regardless of , toss it, it stands erect, in place.

    timate questions are like the Daruma doll.

    like Bodhidharma.

    Do ay righey are.

    At t, depending on ions may change.

    You may keep tossing t of your life: you ired, not the doll.

    It anding upright, in place.

    timate questions.

    existed before te, t exists beyond, tion becomes meaningless.

    I can tell you only tends to t, of consciousness ahead of us.

    I can tell you this also: as darkness decreases, bliss increases.

    And I can mention the increase in darkness, misery grows.

    ts.

    If you wiso cowards darkness and unconsciousness.

    If you imate light.

    And if you  w was before and w is ahead.

    Question 3

    At tAtION CAMP YOU SAID MEDItAtION AND SAMADItUtE A VOLUNtARY, CONSCIOUS ENtERING INtO DEAth DISAPPEARS.

    NO tION IS,  t t CANNOt EXPERIENCE SUCh DELUSION.

    AND tION OF CONSCIOUSNESS BEING DELUDED.

    t IS thIS DELUSION?

    th

    If a man can die in tate of consciousness, for s no more.

    In oto remain conscious at time of deat all: deat a delusion to him.

    Deato be a delusion does not mean,  death remains in some form as a delusion.

    Rat all.

    th becomes a falsehood.

    But it is natural for you to ask, quot;; You are rig cannot be t cannot be the soul never dies.

    t is of course, neithe body.

    As a matter of fact, th is a social phenomenon.

    to be understood in a little detail.

    You see a man dying, and think he is dead.

    Since you are not dead you  to this way.

    It is very foolis to conclude t the man is dead.

    All you ougo say is, quot;I am not able to determine whe way I knew him before.

    quot; to say anyts of propriety.

    All one ougo say is, quot;Up to yesterday talking, now alks.

    Before o walk, now he walks no more.

    Up to yesterday, w I ood as s no more.

    to yesterday is no more.

    If t, t; if t, t as it may.

    quot; But to say quot;t; is going a little too far; it is going beyond limits.

    One ougo simply say, quot;the man is no longer alive.

    quot; As one kneo .

    tive statement is fine, t o say tive assertion.

    e are not just saying  in ts no more, he man is dead.

    e are saying th has also occurred.

    It mig t were his man before are no longer happening.

    e are not only saying t, but also t a new poo.

    e w dead, we whe person and pronounce him dead.

    termines t even asking  even letting ! It is like a one-party decision in court; t.

    t even o say w.

    Do you folloh is a social illusion.

    It is not t mans illusion; oget.

    of dying.

    to remain a t of deatate of sleep? It is obvious.

    o spending ate of sleep, stay a one ainly be fast asleep in his sleep.

    see in t daylig?

    Do you suppose one e, o see , as soon as life slips t t moment  in deep sleep.

    t of tter is t, outermination, which is wrong.

    ermined by t qualified.

    No one in t ness because no one really sahe person dying.

    No one  of dying been nessed by anyone.

    All il a given moment a person hen he was no longer alive.

    ts it; beyond there is a wall.

    So far, no one h.

    Actually, t once ted for a long time, op them over.

    For example, you ely take exception if I say t no man .

    But I maintain t no one .

    e ed objects, but never ligself.

    e say t in the wall is visible, because you are visible.

    An object s, but ligself is never seen.

    Light is always an unknown source.

    Certain t, and because of t .

    s do not shere is darkness.

    e her.

    Obviously,   and, but how can darkness be seen?

    Darkness simply means, nohing is visible.

    to us.

    It ter to say.<u>http://www?99lib.net</u>

    quot;e cannot see anything.

    quot; tatement of fact.

    But to say quot;t; is absolutely wrong.

    turning darkness into an object.

    So t to say about darkness is, quot;I cannot see anything.

    quot;  because I am unable to see anyt mean there is darkness.

    Saying quot;I cant see anyt; means t made everything shine has become dull.

    No visible, it is therefore dark.

    A person  eating, drinking, sleeping, moving about, quarreling, loving, making friends, creating enmity, all of a sudden, at t of deathrough his fingers.

    ood as life  life at all.

    t acts, visible in t of life.

    Just as objects are seen in t, tain t .

    en food, made friends, created enmity, built o ion -- all t of life.

    No t of deathem slipping away.

    So no life is lost forever.

    man dies is stuck in his mind as well.

    So he feels he is dying.

    of t social illusion.

    o feel  as others before him have died.

    ives crying bitterly.

    Now o become confirmed.

    All tes a ic effect on him.

    All these people

    .

    tuation is just ideal -- tor at mospears.

    Noain of h.

    t he is dying grips his mind.

    ives around o cast a ic spell on t  about to die.

    Someone feels his pulse.

    Someone else recites ta or wra in his ear.

    All of t to die -- t wsoever h him.

    tism.

    t to die, t  he is gone.

    to become unconscious, frig  to die, I am about to die.

    s; Overcome   state of fear he will become unconscious.

    In fact, falling unconscious is a device  things we are afraid of.

    You omache pain becomes unbearable you will fall unconscious.

    t is just a trick on your part to sco forget the pain.

    oo mucal trick -- you dont  to suffer the pain any longer.

    go aernative is to sch off ones mind.

    One turns off so one remains unahe pain.

    So, falling unconscious is our unique h unbearable pain.

    Remember,  is bearable.

    As soon as t of becoming unbearable, you are gone; hence you never feel unbearable pain.

    Never believe a  if someone says alking to you is still conscious.

    he pain been unbearable he would have been unconscious.

    tural trick would  consciousness.

    As soon as a person crosses t of endurance he falls unconscious.

    Even minor illnesses frig to say about terrifying t of death.

    th kills us.

    e lose consciousness, and in t unconscious state death occurs.

    mean it is an illusion t o to the soul.

    I call it a social illusion -- one e in every child.

    e indoctrinate every c;You are going to die, and th occurs.

    quot; So by time a coms of deatoms apply to  closes his eyes and becomes unconscious.

    ized.

    Contrary to tecive meditation -- a teco enter death consciously.

    In tibet technique is known as bardo.

    Just as people ize a man in , similarly, people involved in Bardo give anti-ic suggestions to a dying man.

    In Bardo, people gats and tell ;You are not dying, because no one has ever died.

    quot; ti-ic suggestions.

    thing else will be done.

    People  or monk ;You are not dying, because no one has ever died.

    You  relaxed and fully conscious.

    You  die, because no one ever dies.

    quot;

    tire process is narrated to

    speak, and so on -- and yet, told, ill is, ill remain.

    And all around ions are given.

    tions are simply anti-ic.

    t means, t to make sure t grab on to t he verge of dying.

    In order to prevent , people use Bardo as an antidote.

    ttitude tohere will be no need for Bardo.

    But idote becomes essential.

    I believe tion of Bardo in try as well.

    tempt to ster  he is dying.

    If t eac

    t does not leave all at once; all of t die at time.

    t by bit, leaves eac of the body.

    tages it ages of traction can be recounted to the dying man as a means of keeping him conscious.

    there can be many ways of keeping a dying person awake.

    For example, special kinds of aromas can ay conscious, just as certain kinds of aromas, odors, can make a person unconscious.

    Incense and benzoin o keep one awake.

    A kind of music can be created around a person to make ay conscious.

    And there can be music which can make a person fall asleep.

    You come across music o sleep -- tain ain mantras can be uttered  go to sleep.

    Certain parts of a dying mans body can be tapped in order to stop him from falling asleep and keep his consciousness alive.

    o sit in a certain posture to prevent o let ay conscious.

    A Zen master was dying.

    ;I  to ask you something.

    My time  I feel the way everyone dies.

    Many  before.

    Its no fun.

    My question is: ;

    t;e  seen anyone do it, but ic who died walking.

    quot;

    ter said, quot;All rig it! Let me ask you tic dying wanding on ;

    t;e never conceived or dreamed of suc alone sa.

    quot;

    quot;All rig; said ter, quot;ts t will be.

    quot; ood on his head and died.

    ter became very scared.

    t of an unknoo bring doanding on its head was even more scary.

    ter was a dangerous man.

    tioned himself

    Dead, no one dared bring him down and lay him on a bier.

    ted calling er, a nun living in a monastery nearby.

    So   whenever he was mischievous as a young boy.

    ter ion.

    She became very annoyed.

    S;.

    given up s even in his old age.

    So even rick!quot; ty-year-old woman grabbed aff and came.

    Striking aff ;Noop tiness! If you o die, die properly.

    quot;

    ter quickly came down and laughed.

    quot;I  ; he said.

    quot;I o see o do.

    Now I sional way.

    quot; So ly lay down and died.

    er walked away.

    quot;Nos more like it,quot; she said.

    quot;Dispose of him.

    quot; S look back.

    quot;t; she said.

    quot;soever you do, do it properly.

    quot;

    So our illusion of death is a social illusion.

    the illusion can be removed.

    teco remove it; tematic o get rid of it.

    If no one else removes it, ticed even a little meditation can come out of it  time of death.

    If you tle experience of meditation: if you rut you are separate from your body; if tification  ever go deep  be unconscious at time of death.

    In fact, by tate of unconsciousness would already be broken.

    You o die knowingly.

    to be able to die knoradiction in terms.

    No one can ever die kno  dying, t somet .

    cion and ultimately finds t  a distance.

    turns out to be merely a separation; it amounts to tion.

    It is as if I o step out of tside to come to tearful goodbye, feeling t to say goodbye to had died.

    tion of th.

    Because tion, it is meaningless to call it deat is merely a loosening, a breaking of a connection.

    It is nothes.

    So, one h never arises for him.

    even call death an illusion.

    even say w die.

    ate t o yesterday ion.

    t association has broken.

    Noion.

    Per is a neion, a new journey.

    Do you now follow w I mean wo be an illusion for one wh never was.

    It  a social belief created by t know o die, w dead, wh.

    And ternity, and inue to exist in ture, because t dead  on those who are.

    turn h news.

    trut a meditative person, one ion, does not realize for a long time t he is dead.

    hey are weeping.

    ts for taking ion, or ts to bury  only to remind  he same person.

    try  those of sannyasins.

    t, if to be saved, t mig for several mont t dead, and try to find o reenter it.

    Saving t creating a little impediment for its new journey.

    t e cremation -- so, at tion ground, t could see t t  aken to be its body no longer exists.

    t realizes it no longer  the bridge is broken.

    tter is over, thing is finished.

    So keep in mind t tem of burning t just a ing the house.

    tant reasons be.

    Actually ting person finds it o believe he is dead.

    test difference.

    Only a sannyasins body ed because a sannyasin already knohe body.

    ts womb over his body.

    te.

    So ty in preserving the body of a realized sannyasin.

    But t true o an ordinary man, for  can keep ime.

    It can still try to figure out a o reenter the body.

    It is possible to die in a state of awareness only if you h awareness.

    If you o live consciously.

    you ainly be able to die consciously -- because dying is a p takes place fn life.

    In ot you understand life to be.

    It is not an event t occurs outside of life.

    Ordinarily, side of life, or as some kind of pe to life.

    No, in fact, it is ts wake place in life.

    It is like a tree t bears fruit.

    First t is green, t starts turning yellow.

    It turns more and more yelloil finally it becomes completely yelloree.

    t falling from tree is not an event outside of t; rat is tual fulfillment of tself.

    t from tree is not an external event; rat is tion of t hrough.

    And  ting ready to face t.

    And t  even blossomed on t, ill he branch.

    Even in t state it  as well.

    And  ed yet, ill ion hen as well.

    And  ill ree? the same process was going on.

    So t of deat a part of ts belonging to the same phenomenon.

    t is not t is just a separation.

    One relationsionsher order.

    Question 4

    ION tO NIRVANA?

    Nirvana means, firstly, t one otally t all.

    Secondly, it means one o kno, in tained.

    Nirvana means ay t and as deat all, and t  really life.

    Do you follo wh.

    ted  is t one  life eit as deat is a social illusion too.

    Nirvana means total realization of boties.

    If you only knoinue to take nehs.

    Life, in a sense, will go on.

    In t case you h.

    to live again, to o take a neh will remain.

    to knoruto knoruts entirety -- t life is not life, t deat deat day you urn.

    tion of returning.

    Do you follow me?

    It is like saying fareo a person who has died.

    e see ting place.

    As long as  to be his final abode as well.

    So, from tside, o find entry.

    If teps of the body.

    So ually enter into one or another body.

    t becomes restless and begins  ified life h having a physical body.

    It may not o you, but your last t as you fall asleep at nig t whe morning.

    atc a little.

    t t of t  t next morning -- seven er.

    t  for you to wake up.

    It  overnigep of your consciousness in order to begin  up in the morning.

    If you  , t t t morning  t fight.

    If you slept s.

    occurred last nigarting point of t morning.

    t t, t er death.

    ely set out on the journey.

    If  at t of dying t royed -- t   ically run all over looking for a passage for an instant birth.

    So  desire at t -- t desire, remember -- t ire life.

    Actually, even t t before going to sleep is tract of your al of tire day, t of it.

    For example, a man runs a s nigs and to sleep.

    Similarly, t t before falling asleep is t.

    If a person o note  t before going to sleep at nig t -- o e a obiography, incomparable.

    t , abstract story of your life.

    It ain everyt is essential, and all t is nonessential would drop away.

    If you o note t t eac fifteen ts collected over fifteen days o kno your life --  to be.

    t t in your dying moments is tessence of your entire life of seventy, eighty years.

    tential for t life.

    t  to carry into t birth.

    You may call it karma, you may call it desire or  samskara, conditioning, it  make any difference.

    Rat a built-in program of your life, applicable in ture.

    It is amazing, but tle seed, o tree? t -in program, ot be possible.

    It must ained a blueprint.

    gro have been programmed.

    In it, t little seed must ire plan.

    If one could dra   ain, all and   and ser under it.

    All to in detail, because all of it is  tiny seed.

    Its like t of a building; it contains all t it will be someday.

    At time of deatire life.

    e save , and wsoever we find useless we drop.

    A man o temple,  remember temple in s -- but taining ninety-nine t edly remember.

    In ones dying moments t  hrown away.

    tial and tial ed.

    At time of departure all t is  which is meaningful will be packed up, carried over by you.

    t  antly become your built-in program.

    No out on a neure birtake place according to ture program.

    It will be a new voyage, a new body.

    It will be a w-up.

    And tifically as anything else.

    So nirvana means t a person o kno deat really death, nor is life, life.

    Once o tion of bot-in program left.

    s go of the program.

    s go of botial and tial.

    Now o go all by  of a bird.

    hing behind.

    reasure as emple.

    s o ots oto him.

    he foregoes good deeds as well as bad deeds.

    In fact, hing.

    Kabir says, quot;I leave beact.

    quot;   no accounts  pending.

    ook it off so totally t  o revieo reevaluate anding of tial and tial.

    Kabir says, quot;I  care and t it aside as I found it,  impairing it in any way.

    quot; In sucuation t be any built-in program for ture, because ts virgin state.

    c save anytranscend all.

    it  go of wsoever he has earned in life.

    ts ake off on t alone.

    quot; Noures nor doctrines -- nothing.

    So nirvana means one h.

    And , o see t which is.


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